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ignoring. the recent election and the results of the foreign intervention into the country's uprising. for this special interview next. as libya continues its long march towards democracy militant rivalry talk session and continued outbreaks of violence opposing major challenges we're joined now by spike magazine journalist patrick case even extensively about libya and about what's been going on historic moments for libya really all we going to see the any concrete changes i think it should have been the story moments i mean what we what we've seen with the elections is the first time the libyan people have been able to

express their voice and talk about who they want to be elected for the first time in fifty years since nine hundred sixty five should have been the story the moment it should have been the outcome of the struggle the logical outcome of the arab spring in libya last year unfortunately what we see with these elections though is that this struggle for democracy this march towards democracy to talk about it has effectively been spy western intervention over the past year or so the election itself has been administered by the national transitional council which was effectively cherry picked by the west rather the then actually selected by the libyan people it's an unelected body and there have been a lot of disagreements has been a lot of protests over the past nine ten months by the libyan people who are unhappy with the lack of transparency from this government there are unhappy with the fact that the transitional council does not represent their views or the people

they want to be in power and they're also unhappy with the way in which the election has been planned and the seats for the national council have been allocated a large proportion of them being allocated to tripoli and the west of libya i would touch on the problems that that's causing in a moment he said in your latest article titled libyan election on. what do you mean . it's for nato intervention last year i think these elections should really have been something to celebrate the libyan people taking the democratic initiative overthrowing the tyrant gadhafi who was in charge for forty two years and they were starting to do that last year were it not for a haphazard intervention led by nicolas sarkozy in france david cameron the u.k. prime minister who decided to step in and in the name of humanitarian justice intervene in the in the in the way in which

a sovereign country was being administered by gadhafi and to really kind of forge a wedge between the people fighting the civil war and. cronies that cause real problems because it meant the first starts with the transitional council that was set up last february in two thousand and eleven the whole time that the war in libya took place they were all into it towards getting western approval for their actions the national transitional council in libya brutally during the uprising the uprising there in qatar there in the united arab emirates they're inching this year they were flying around the world making deals with western. governments that might make sense in some ways but the thing that they forgot to do and this was the real issue and you see this happening in syria now is to get the mandates of the libyan people to engage with them and to be oriented towards leadership to them rather than convincing the west in particular that they are the right people to lead so

what you happens following the fall of the. transitional council who are affecting the helicopters in late actually because the rebels took tripoli bye bye by storm much faster than they expected you had a vacuum in libya with a transitional council that did not represent the will or the kind of the ideas and feel. as of the libyan people in general and there has been this really strange moment since there have been any other way of avoiding that. i think the way that could have been avoided would have been to not have had western intervention in march last you know the real had been a western intervention libya wouldn't be this point right now they wouldn't be having their. election we're just seeing democratic elections in egypt we've seen elections in june this year there's no reason why the libyan people couldn't have also brought about change by themselves in fact i think it takes

a very paternalistic mindset in the west that they have to step in and intervene and do this on behalf of the libyan people seen massive swathes of the army starting to defect from gadhafi and they're. sure a ragtag kind of bunch of resistance kind of starting to step up and to challenge could have been different strongholds. particularly in benghazi it wasn't necessarily the case in the west needed to intervene the tool but in the intervening in this is. the democratic initiative from the libyan people they interfered with the struggle for leadership that struggle for the future battle of ideas for the future of libyan society which is necessary in the civil war to really unify and get here individuals so that they can so that they can bring about change which actually reflects their will rather than what the west nato in particular thinks is the best way towards

a society the west has now moved on to other things i think. there's been a lot of turmoil in libya over the last few months and we've heard very little from . people who were very vocal last year so david cameron after the death of gadhafi said this is the opportunity for the libyan people to forge a strong democratic future and i'm very proud of the way that britain has played a role in this but now there is silence. from david cameron from obama from hillary clinton from william hague the foreign secretary in the way people don't want to talk about it anymore partly because there's a lot of talk about using a loop in stone in syria and they don't want to acknowledge the fact that what we have seen is effectively a very fragmented libya in the past six months is that a realistic possibility do you think i mean would a division of power in the way work or is it going to cause a struggle for where there is talk in benghazi and which is in the eastern region i think it's very telling that the libyan people have started to reassure this kind

of tribal role and also go back to these old boundaries and divisions because rather than actually having to struggle for democracy. unifying sense of comradeship that i idea that they've really put everything on the line to get rid of gadhafi and to bring about a new society the west effectively the country into democracy you saw this a lot over the you know in the past year where you know the west would effectively bomb the rebels then when it was safe to come in go in and take that town and then they would move forward that was the kind of strategy so effectively the west handed this revolution and i say revolution in kind of almost scare quotes to the libyan people on a plate and that wasn't fair for them the democratic initiative from them it's also really process of proper leadership and a proper sense of how the country can be governing feature the mention the rebels

there i mean militarily they weren't anywhere near the point where they would have been able to topple the regime. so in terms of that you know sort of with hindsight it's easy to criticize but again we come back to where we are now what's not and what we did barack go in egypt we've seen bring about democracy there's no reason why. things couldn't have happened very very quickly and that was the remarkable thing about the arab spring no one story coming within a short periods of just a couple of months people took the initiative and brought down regimes that were just seen for generations and generations of people in the middle east as being immoveable for the vast majority of people in libya they've never seen elections and anyone under the age of about sixty really probably going to remember life without having to get a few years ago and that was the same with mubarak and that was the same with ben ali. i mean things could have been moving very very quickly western intervention i

think pretty much puts that struggle for democracy on ice in libya in a way that hasn't happened in egypt and tunisia you know i think there would have been a risk with the syria style situation sort of a stalemate between the two sides and the death toll just keeps mounting i think there is a tendency of course from people and you saw this in benghazi as well when gadhafi troops were getting ever closer to benghazi and the death toll was rising the people of course do look for for anyone to help them they are desperate various points but the problem is when you continually have the idea of a crisis when you can call for effectively a guardian angels come in and help you it does what the situation and the things the west didn't necessarily make it better the death toll increased considerably after nato bombs started to fool in libya and the thirty thousand people died in the in past years during the uprising a lot of that was due to western intervention wasn't a bloodless time once the west in actually intensified its and internationalize the

conflict in a way that wouldn't happen otherwise. for. one western intervention intensifies internationalize this is often brings about kind of greater bloodshed if you leave the struggle to the people the democratic struggle to the people of the country selves i think we also need to think in terms of what comes next now there was never you know there were. never a plan for what happened in the post libya by by david cameron by obama it was very much you know obama reluctantly got involved and after less than a week really started to kind of go on the back foot the western leaders didn't have an idea of how they were going to restructure libya they didn't even want to talk about regime change when they first started. bombing libya so i think what i think we can learn from from the libyan situation is that western countries coming in and intervening to try and intervene even good heartedly in

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a base sample to be analyzed he is the second ride on the tour to fail a drug test this year four in french friday means you could have a week ago. the mile race leader bragg readings has full of is full of confidence ahead of stage sixteen in the pyrenees it takes in four of the biggest climbs in cycling including the tall molay which rises to over two thousand metres the brit has a two minute lead in the standings over sky team mate chris froome while italian been changing the barley is a further twenty seconds back on the five days left he hasn't written off his chances of grabbing the yellow jersey but first let's hear from wiggins who is every believes his team can help him win the tour de france. i think we proved that every race we've gone through this year across the board even when there's been other line ups and things like that this team prides itself on racing as a team going out with a game plan and sticking to that game plan and working for each other really in every environment not just on the bike but off the bike is where we support each

other and i think i think that's one thing we've got over a lot of other things that are on a diet of his in a way that it was it will be very difficult to win by the next two days is the mountains if there is a little grass is for rider it is more likely that they will lose big time in the third week then in the first two weeks. another news russia footballers have given their backing to fabulous capello he set to become the new coach of the national side in the next few days the former england boss is expected to sign a two year deal with the russian football union and will take charge in time for russia's friendly against ivory coast next month before world cup qualifiers against northern ireland and israel in september russia stars including didn't. have backed his imminent appointment. you know the story i think this is the correct decision and he's a great coach and one of the best around he's been in charge of england and top clubs around europe he's very experienced it will be great to work with him but you

are going to share it with i don't really know what to think of moments so many names will link with a job like capello is going to learn we'll just have to see what he's able to bring to the team and hopefully he'll help take russian football forward to the region meanwhile big spending paris and your man are set to unveil but him if it is their new signing later today the striker will complete a switch from ac milan after arriving at the club this morning for a medical it's believed p.s.g. agreed to pay twenty five million dollars for the thirty year old swede he's been offered a two year contract worth seventeen million dollars a season after tax. elsewhere barcelona new coach tito villanova says he will be relying heavily on legal messi in the upcoming season villanova is getting his support ready for their clash with rivals rearm madrid next month spanish super cup reale won the league last year but villanova believes strike a messy can help barter reclaim the title. no you got your little missy has

a very special role in this team last season hugh scored a lot of goals but hopefully he will score at least as many this season has progressed a lot of people had said he couldn't score with his left leg or his head but this is exactly what he does know he's more complete now understands the game and he's the first to take on extra responsibility. now there are just nine days to go until the start of the london games and the brazil football team have touched down in england in search of their first olympic title many brazilian fans were heathrow airport to welcome a heroes despite the nation's glorious history they never have won olympic gold and their joint favorites with spain after picking a seriously strong squad include santos striker neymar who are twenty years old is one of the hottest talents and world football and ac milan front man alexander papo brazil will play the great britain side in a friendly on friday before starting their greek city campaign against egypt better

reduce and new zealand. are the biggest name on the track maybe sprinter usain bolt but fellow fellow jamaican blake looks like an increasing threat to the triple olympic champion he's just run nine point eight five in one hundred metres at a late key event at least in switzerland and says he's bang on course for the limpid great run the fastest time of the year last month if you make it to trials his nine point seven five in one hundred metres beating involved who clocked nine point eight six he also be told in the two hundred meters their pay will go head to head in both games and london. whatever happens on the flight oscar pistorius is guaranteed to get the headlines he will become the first double amputee to compete at the olympics nicknamed the blade or another south african is set to run in the four hundred meters and take part in the four by four hundred meter relay but even though he got silver in the relay at last year's world championships he doesn't write his chances of a medal in the individual event. to make the finals going to be extremely tough.

there's a big difference in qualifying from being at the top of the gods or running at the top or running already you know forty four seconds which is the second quicker than of every one hundred and then probably two when going to the two thousand and. you know sub forty four tom show america with two more than earth feet differently going to be some phenomenal performances so he faces a tough challenge and so do the athletes from war torn somalia some of whom have literally risked their lives to be at the games. will represent their country and middle and long distance running but the path to the lympics has been a struggle for them small as a limp it president was blown up by a suicide bomber and with no real training facilities the athletes have had to get fit on the streets of mogadishu. imagine when you live in a country that hasn't got

a sports team we had no right to run and train except on the streets of mogadishu at a time when you finally was at its worst you had to train in iran did not very early in the morning running pass through the x. men and great armor and militias sometimes the soldier on guard would mistake rice for being so he said. and order us to start or they would shoot sometimes the slaughters would stop nice and then detain us crawl and here which really affected our training schedule. an amazing story now elsewhere america's basketball players are about to kick start the european leg of their prelim pick tour the defending olympic champions are due to play host great britain in manchester on thursday before moving on to barcelona for two more exhibition matches but before leaving home they beat brazil eight hundred sixty nine in a friendly to send out a signal to their rivals at the london games however the us are writing off the south american side adding that other opponents too could also cause an upset. i

think brazil has a great chance to be in contention for a gold medal. we're going to play a couple other teams in exhibitions that also will be there and tina and spain and one team we will not face and we cross cross over to him france you know france was tony parker leading them and all the n.b.a. players they have will be will be. the men's usa basketball team might take all the headlines the country's female team are actually bigger favorites to take gold they will go to london having won their last thirty three matches at the lympics down there after their fifth straight gold medal they've arrived in manchester for a woman but. it's always been one of the things that we worried about the most. you know we don't get much preparation so every time we get on the court we really have to make the most of it we played last night going to morrow so you know that helps us and then to go into the games. now all the athletes are dreaming of

getting their hands on the medal but there's little chance of that certainly before the games start because they are being kept in a very safe place the tower of london in fact for over six hundred years behind the crown jewels and seem like the perfect place to put three hundred two sets of medals before the olympic games begin in just nine days. it's the safest house in london but it's iconic it's looked after precious jewels in the crown jewels for many many years and of course it's one of our host barros as well so it was an obvious choice. well tiger woods has said that he would love to represent his country when his sport makes the return to the lympics and twenty sixteen but for the moment he has got more pressing issues on his mind like getting ready for this week's open world number four has won the open three times before but admits this year's course at royal lytham and st annes were not allow any room for error and warns players will have

to be on their game from the very first tee when the opening round gets underway on thursday. it is different there's no doubt because we have to be precise for you. and hit a ball a specific number normally it's an iron hybrid for water dry rot the first tune you can hit basically any distance you want. you're setting yourself up for the second shot but this is toy different. psychological it is different because you have to be on a game right away and you can't just you know hit a ball of fur or any distance you want you have to have to the ball a precise number. that is different than what we experience from in a week in week out and that's all we've got time for for the moment so we've got the weather coming up next here on out.

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